Old Timer is one of the most recognizable names in American pocket knives. For collectors, the phrase “vintage Old Timer” usually means Schrade-made knives from the 1960s through the early 2000s—especially the pre-2004 U.S.-made era.
This guide shows you how to identify your knife (model number + tang stamp), evaluate condition in the way knife buyers actually do, and anchor your expectations with public auction results so you can price confidently.
Quick rule of thumb: a common user-grade Old Timer is often a modest collectible, but a New Old Stock (NOS) example with box, paperwork, and crisp snap can command a meaningful premium.
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What drives vintage Old Timer knife value (in plain English)
Collectors pay for originality, condition, and confidence. When two knives look similar from a distance, tiny details decide the price:
- Era (tang stamp): U.S.-made Schrade-era stamps are typically stronger than later imports.
- Pattern/model: common models trade frequently; scarcer patterns and special issues can jump.
- Condition: snap, blade wear, corrosion, and handle shrinkage/cracks matter more than “overall age.”
- Completeness: original box, paperwork, sheath (when applicable), and matching set packaging boost value.
- Market channel: a local sale and a nationwide online auction often produce different results.
How to identify your Old Timer: model number + tang stamp
Start with two pieces of information you can usually photograph in under a minute:
- Model number / pattern: often printed on the original box (example: 8OT, 34OT), sometimes etched on a blade.
- Tang stamp: the stamped text on the base of the blade (the “tang”) that indicates maker and, often, production era.
Common patterns collectors recognize
Not every collector memorizes every pattern code, but a few models come up often in Old Timer collections:
- 8OT “Senior” stockman: a classic 3-blade stockman pattern; very common, but boxed examples stay desirable.
- 34OT “Middleman” stockman: a smaller stockman; many collectors like it as an everyday carry size.
- 33OT / 12OT / 25OT: frequently seen traditional patterns; pricing varies heavily by condition.
If your knife is in a boxed set, photograph the box label—model numbers on labels are often the quickest, cleanest identifier.
What to photograph for ID (minimum set)
- Both sides of the knife closed (full view).
- All blades open (profile shot showing blade shapes and snap).
- Tang stamp close-up (sharp enough to read every letter).
- Handle material close-up (sawcut Delrin vs bone; cracks/shrinkage).
- Box label and paperwork (if present).
Condition grading: what buyers actually penalize
Knife buyers tend to grade harshly because small problems are functional problems. Here’s a practical way to think about condition on Old Timers:
- Mint / NOS: no carry wear, clean blades, strong snap, and (best case) original box.
- Excellent: very light handling marks; minimal blade wear; no active corrosion.
- Very good: light sharpening, faint pepper spots, small handle scuffs, still tight.
- Good user: visible sharpening, blade loss, patina, minor pitting, or small handle chips.
- Project / parts: broken spring, heavy rust/pitting, cracked handles, missing blades, or loose pivots.
Pro tip: avoid aggressive polishing for “shine.” Collectors prefer honest patina over buffed bolsters, rounded edges, and erased stamp details.
Handle materials and “special” versions
Most classic Old Timer knives use a sawcut synthetic handle material (often referred to as Delrin). That’s not “bad”—it’s part of the Old Timer identity. What changes pricing is when a knife deviates from the common baseline:
- Bone or special handle runs: often less common and can bring a premium.
- Scrimshaw, etches, or commemoratives: value depends on whether collectors view it as desirable or gimmicky.
- Sets and displays: boxed multi-knife groups can sell strongly, especially if unused.
Photograph the handle under raking light so texture and any cracks/shrinkage are obvious.
Authenticity: common red flags (and what’s normal)
Old Timer knives are heavily collected, which means there’s also a steady stream of “Franken-knives” (parts knives) and confusing look-alikes. A few practical checks:
- Stamp clarity: if the tang stamp is faint, that can be wear—or it can be an aggressive polish job.
- Inconsistent wear: mint-looking blades with heavily worn handles can indicate parts swaps.
- Loose pivots / blade play: common in hard-used knives; not necessarily fake, but it lowers value.
- Modern imports: later Old Timer-branded knives exist; they’re collectibles too, but they usually price differently than U.S.-made Schrade-era knives.
If you’re unsure, the most helpful single photo is a sharp tang stamp close-up—it often answers “what is it?” faster than anything else.
Recent auction comps (public results)
These comps are pulled from a broad pocket-knives auction dataset. They’re not perfect one-to-one matches for your exact pattern, but they show how Old Timers trade in the real market—especially in groups and sets.
- Austin Auction Gallery (Apr 1, 2023), Lot 864: “(10) SCHRADE OLD TIMER KNIVES, NOT USED” — $300 (USD).
- Atlee Raber Auctioneer (Jul 15, 2024), Lot 212: “CASE OF OLD TIMER POCKET KNIVES” — $250 (USD).
- Appalachian Trading Post & Auction Company (Jan 6, 2024), Lot 260: “LOT OF 5 SCHRADE AND OLD TIMER POCKET KNIVES” — $200 (USD).
How to use these: group lots can hide a wide range of condition. If your knife is one clean, tight example with box, it may price stronger than a “per-knife” average implied by a mixed-lot result.
Care and preservation (without hurting value)
Collectors want an Old Timer to look honest, not “restored.” If you’re preparing a knife for sale or insurance documentation:
- Clean gently: wipe with a soft cloth; avoid heavy metal polish that can blur stamps and remove patina.
- Stabilize, don’t refinish: a light coat of non-acidic oil on steel can reduce active rust.
- Don’t over-sharpen: repeated sharpening changes blade profile and lowers collector appeal.
- Store dry: avoid leather sheaths for long storage (they can trap moisture and cause corrosion).
When a professional appraisal is worth it
Consider a professional appraisal if you have:
- a boxed set or display with multiple Old Timers,
- unusual handle materials or limited runs,
- a knife tied to provenance (military, advertising, estate history), or
- an insurance/estate need where the value definition matters (replacement vs fair market value).
A good appraisal is more than a number—it documents identity, condition, and the comparable market evidence supporting the value.
FAQ: vintage Old Timer knives
Are all Old Timer knives valuable?
No. Many Old Timers were made in large quantities and were meant to be used. Value rises with condition, uncommon patterns, pre-2004 U.S. production, and boxed/NOS examples.
Does the box really matter?
Often yes. Boxes help confirm model number and completeness—and collectors like display-ready, documented examples. A clean boxed knife can price meaningfully higher than the same knife loose.
Should I clean rust off before selling?
Light cleaning is fine; aggressive polishing can remove metal and blur stamps. If rust is active, a gentle oil + soft cloth approach is usually safer than abrasive pads.
What’s the best way to get a fast preliminary value?
Start with clear photos, then compare your knife’s condition to sold listings and the auction comps above. If you need a documented number quickly, an online appraisal can get you to a defensible value range fast.
Search variations collectors ask
Readers often Google:
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- what photos do I need for an Old Timer knife appraisal
Each question is answered in the identification and valuation sections above.